Offline support without Google Gears
f789gh says:
Hi, I would like to use awesome application offline without gears (or just to install something. ) Please can you instead of Gears (by google not more supported) new things from HTML5 that has "offline mod".
Launched
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
We were able to bring back offline support with the launch of the new Remember The Milk.
Thanks for everyone's feedback on this! :) We hope you enjoy offline support.
Thanks for everyone's feedback on this! :) We hope you enjoy offline support.
ken.odeluga says:
Gears still aid the usage of RTM in offline mode, even though Google said it's stopped development of Google Gears.
In any case, has Google made clear it's still *supporting* Gears, even if it's not going to add to Gears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Gears
In any case, has Google made clear it's still *supporting* Gears, even if it's not going to add to Gears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Gears
sdohrn says:
Gears unfortunately never worked for Snow Leopard on Mac (and never will), so switching to an HTML5 offline option would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks for the great work.
captaincampari says:
Offline is very important for me, too!
Gears never worked, I always had sync problems (stuck while syncing).
I'm missing offline support very much.
Gears never worked, I always had sync problems (stuck while syncing).
I'm missing offline support very much.
felixc says:
+1
dimitrilw says:
+1
The most recent comprehensive update I saw on RTM site is 10 months old:
http://blog.rememberthemilk.com/2010/04/the-future-of-offline-html5-and-web-standards/
I would really like to see this capability come to fruition. I'd also be interested in a status update.
Thank you, RTM Gurus.
--Dimitri
The most recent comprehensive update I saw on RTM site is 10 months old:
http://blog.rememberthemilk.com/2010/04/the-future-of-offline-html5-and-web-standards/
I would really like to see this capability come to fruition. I'd also be interested in a status update.
Thank you, RTM Gurus.
--Dimitri
(closed account) says:
+1.
Offline capability is crucial, and whilst (if you have one) the iPhone app helps, the UI is necessarily constrained, and hence not as productive as the full-screen browser app.
Since it seems clear that Google is (a) no longer developing and (b) no longer supporting Gears, and, further, that the number of operating systems and browsers on which Gears works is rapidly decreasing (example: on a Mac, Gears only works with Firefox 3 - which is about to be replaced by Firefox 4 - and even then only with a certain amount of hackery under Snow Leopard), it would be helpful if we could get at least a statement of direction and suggestive timeline from RTM :)
I'm sure everyone understands that it's a hard problem to solve; and that there are dependencies in terms of browser support for other technologies (such as HTML 5, if that ends up being the desired direction), but an indication that the problem is recognised and that some action is underway to address it would be both reassuring and helpful.
Thanks!
--&e
Offline capability is crucial, and whilst (if you have one) the iPhone app helps, the UI is necessarily constrained, and hence not as productive as the full-screen browser app.
Since it seems clear that Google is (a) no longer developing and (b) no longer supporting Gears, and, further, that the number of operating systems and browsers on which Gears works is rapidly decreasing (example: on a Mac, Gears only works with Firefox 3 - which is about to be replaced by Firefox 4 - and even then only with a certain amount of hackery under Snow Leopard), it would be helpful if we could get at least a statement of direction and suggestive timeline from RTM :)
I'm sure everyone understands that it's a hard problem to solve; and that there are dependencies in terms of browser support for other technologies (such as HTML 5, if that ends up being the desired direction), but an indication that the problem is recognised and that some action is underway to address it would be both reassuring and helpful.
Thanks!
--&e
jgergic says:
The last island of working Gears on Mac is Safari, Gears do not work in Firefox since 3.6 on my Mac. Now with Firefox 4, I am stuck completely. Please switch to HTML5 off-line storage.
andrewski (Remember The Milk) says:
Sorry for the delay in responding on this topic. We posted our thoughts on the future of an offline web app back in April (as Dimitri already mentioned above); we'll share an update as soon as we can!
mwld says:
+1
Yep, I´d really like to see offline support for Firefox 4!
Yep, I´d really like to see offline support for Firefox 4!
blaylock says:
+1
wrnr says:
+1
egon.geerardyn says:
+1
matthias_beyer says:
+1
dowcet says:
+1
I was pretty much devastated when I realized that I can't use RTM offline in Firefox 4!
I was pretty much devastated when I realized that I can't use RTM offline in Firefox 4!
johnaby says:
+1
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
We're looking into it. :) In the past, some of the browsers haven't been quite as ready for offline support without Google Gears as we would've liked them to be, but that's changing now, so hopefully it's something we can support in the future.
reubenthum says:
I've always believed that one way for web apps to really make sense and be on par with desktop applications is the offline capabilities it offers, for fast loading.
The other day when there was a scheduled maintenance and I've forgotten to sync RTM in iOS earlier, I sat there confused for a good 6 hours frantically hitting the refresh button. Man that sucks.
I do however apreciate the 3 years we've been able to use RTM offline as it's has helped us greatly and we thank you all. Looking forward to the offline access with HTML5 soon. (go Bob, go!)
The other day when there was a scheduled maintenance and I've forgotten to sync RTM in iOS earlier, I sat there confused for a good 6 hours frantically hitting the refresh button. Man that sucks.
I do however apreciate the 3 years we've been able to use RTM offline as it's has helped us greatly and we thank you all. Looking forward to the offline access with HTML5 soon. (go Bob, go!)
gstueck says:
+1
christopherjohnson74 says:
Ditto. I relied heavily on the gears offline app and need something to replace it for Chrome. Thanks.
jacknova says:
Did you thought about silverlight out of browser application and sqlCE? It would be easy to write a cross platform client. You could even integrate a python engine to open interesting possibilityes.
jacknova says:
sqlCe seems available for silverlight only through com objects but this is not cross platform. Anyway there are some interesting solutions: http://siaqodb.com/ http://www.mcobject.com/perst isolated storage...
(closed account) says:
Please - gears just stopped working on chrome and offline mode just isn't the same with internet explorer.
(closed account) says:
I limit my online access with a filter in order to be productive-- PLEASE make it your highest priority to bring back RTM Offline!!
(closed account) says:
Guys, please get going with this - you were one of the first to support Gears, now don't be the last to jump off that ghost train.
Even today, it requires going back to an outdated browser to still have Offline support for RTM, which is crucial - no way my task management tool is depending on an internet application (bridged only by the iPhone app at the moment, which is ... well: not a substitute for the great web app)
Even today, it requires going back to an outdated browser to still have Offline support for RTM, which is crucial - no way my task management tool is depending on an internet application (bridged only by the iPhone app at the moment, which is ... well: not a substitute for the great web app)
djh007 says:
+1 :)
cweb says:
I think it's hilarious that Googld Chrome doesn't support Google Gears. But I'm sad that I can't do offline RTM because I actually do update my browsers to keep up with security patches - I'm at FF4, IE9, and Chrome11 non of which support gears.
jayel14 says:
++
Hate to do a me-too-post here: for some weird reasons I was able to use gears to this date. And now I'm a regular FF4, IE9, Chrome12 guy without offline access to RTM. Hoping for a quick update, now!
Hate to do a me-too-post here: for some weird reasons I was able to use gears to this date. And now I'm a regular FF4, IE9, Chrome12 guy without offline access to RTM. Hoping for a quick update, now!
rick.arnett says:
+1
It may not be much, but I will upgrade to pro when offline mode works with chrome again.
It may not be much, but I will upgrade to pro when offline mode works with chrome again.
robertovg24 says:
+1
Now Chrome has discontinued Google Gears Support, we need transfer RTM offline funcionality to HTML5!
I hope this update quickly, for not to start looking for alternatives....
Now Chrome has discontinued Google Gears Support, we need transfer RTM offline funcionality to HTML5!
I hope this update quickly, for not to start looking for alternatives....
jean.davoust says:
+1
gstueck says:
another +1 because chrome now has discontinued supporting Google Gears
mvdc says:
+1
pcf111 says:
I posted a small guide on my blog on how to fix this, so you can use offline mode again:
"How to use Remember The Milk in offline mode in Google Chrome" - http://j.mp/lr5u11
"How to use Remember The Milk in offline mode in Google Chrome" - http://j.mp/lr5u11
lguenther says:
+1
colin_thames says:
I realise that most of this string has been about browser support but no-one has mentioned App for the Milk a cross platform (runs on Adobe Air) offline app for your Windows, Mac or Ubuntu PC. I've just discovered and love it. It's bare bones but it allows you to view your tasks, edit them and add new ones and when you're next online it will update RTM. In the meanwhile it keeps your tasks safe in an XML file. Just Google it. It's free. I just hope the developer keeps suporting it, or that RTM buy it from him - he deserves the recognition.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
rodrigo.chiong says:
+1
six weeks already (and this thing has been in developpment a lot more time), no news at all? Offline access was really useful, not only when no internet is availavle but with flaky connections too
six weeks already (and this thing has been in developpment a lot more time), no news at all? Offline access was really useful, not only when no internet is availavle but with flaky connections too
(closed account) says:
+1 !!!!!
HTML5 is the future and it is here NOW. I am hoping this is in the works. I would hate to see RTM fall behind the times.
HTML5 is the future and it is here NOW. I am hoping this is in the works. I would hate to see RTM fall behind the times.
tony.grout says:
Please get us moved over to HTML5 as soon as possible - just lost offline as Chrome is now on V12 with no support for Gears. +1
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
Please see our latest blog post, An update on offline access without Gears, for more details on where we're up to with HTML5 offline support.
danmoov2 says:
I really think Adobe AIR is a suitable stop-gap it supports html and JS so would probably only require minimal effort to take the existing offline app and switch from gears to sqlite. I'm confident it could be done in one "caffine fuelled weekend". In fact I'd bet on it.
+1
Please automatically detect and go offline and online.
Its very annoying that i have to do two clicks each time i go online. I often work offline and then continue to work on another pc. So currently i have to remind myself to do the clicks before i can start to use the tasks on the other machine.
Please automatically detect and go offline and online.
Its very annoying that i have to do two clicks each time i go online. I often work offline and then continue to work on another pc. So currently i have to remind myself to do the clicks before i can start to use the tasks on the other machine.
jayel14 says:
@emily:
Thank you for the update. I still would have hoped for quicker solution and a more definitive time line. Without off-line support on my notebook rtm is just half useful to me...
Thank you for the update. I still would have hoped for quicker solution and a more definitive time line. Without off-line support on my notebook rtm is just half useful to me...
kcarnold says:
Could you clarify what about the HTML5 technologies is "not quite ready"? Thanks!
vincent.ardiet says:
Would it be possible to have at least a date ?
vincent.ardiet says:
Ok, I've seen your update emily now
tony.grout says:
Can you give as an update on this as it's pretty frustrating losing capability. Thanks
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
Hi Tony,
Not sure if you've seen this, but we posted an update on our blog last month -- we'll let you guys know just as soon as we have any further news.
Not sure if you've seen this, but we posted an update on our blog last month -- we'll let you guys know just as soon as we have any further news.
tony.grout says:
Hi Emily, so Google have launched their offline version as the blog suggested, suggesting they believe the technology is commercially viable. So what's the timeline for RTM now? Thanks - Tony
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
As mentioned in our blog post, An update on offline access without Gears, we've been waiting on the HTML5 technologies required to re-implement offline support to be production-ready.
Now that Google has made Gmail, Calendar, and Docs available offline in Chrome, we expect to be able to use a similar approach to make Remember The Milk available offline without Gears.
We expect to use the same technology as Google (Web SQL) -- I should note that Google's offline support is for Chrome only. We'll definitely be supporting Chrome, and likely also the other browsers with Web SQL support (that's Safari, iOS Safari, Android Browser, and Opera). Given Google's use of Web SQL with Chrome, we know that this technology/browser combination is ready for offline support for an app like ours.
At least to begin with, we won't have support for IE (which has no offline HTML5 technology available at this time), or Firefox (which doesn't support Web SQL, and would need an implementation of the alternative IndexedDB), but we'll be able to look at our options for these browsers once we get our initial offline support going... one step at a time. :)
We have a fair bit of work to do to re-implement offline support in HTML5, so we don't know when we'll have this available just yet, but we'll post any updates here.
Now that Google has made Gmail, Calendar, and Docs available offline in Chrome, we expect to be able to use a similar approach to make Remember The Milk available offline without Gears.
We expect to use the same technology as Google (Web SQL) -- I should note that Google's offline support is for Chrome only. We'll definitely be supporting Chrome, and likely also the other browsers with Web SQL support (that's Safari, iOS Safari, Android Browser, and Opera). Given Google's use of Web SQL with Chrome, we know that this technology/browser combination is ready for offline support for an app like ours.
At least to begin with, we won't have support for IE (which has no offline HTML5 technology available at this time), or Firefox (which doesn't support Web SQL, and would need an implementation of the alternative IndexedDB), but we'll be able to look at our options for these browsers once we get our initial offline support going... one step at a time. :)
We have a fair bit of work to do to re-implement offline support in HTML5, so we don't know when we'll have this available just yet, but we'll post any updates here.
emily (Remember The Milk) says:
tony.grout says:
Thanks Emily, look forward to seeing the end result.
jayel14 says:
It's still eagerly expected. Thanks for all the effort!
cyberhiker says:
+1 Not upset that it's missing, but wishing it was available.
james.m.l.cramer says:
I want an official Adobe Air version, that can cache the tasks for offline use. For when internet is not available like on a plane, etc. Could be made just like the iPAD version but runs on Air.
Really interested in a Gears-less offline version!
Gears is working great for FF, but now as it's deprecated (and; I've moved over to other browsers than Firefox), it would be a nice thing to have!
(that said - synching with iPad, iPhone, offline web and a couple of different browsers in online mode, I have NEVER had any data consistency issues - RTM is just working!)
Gears is working great for FF, but now as it's deprecated (and; I've moved over to other browsers than Firefox), it would be a nice thing to have!
(that said - synching with iPad, iPhone, offline web and a couple of different browsers in online mode, I have NEVER had any data consistency issues - RTM is just working!)
vamshikk says:
Take your time. With more people moving to cell phones and apps, we already have an offline version :) :) :)
I need off-line mode for my laptop computer with a bigger screen than i-pod, especially when I am traveling in foreign countries where I have not good access to Internet. This is why I am using an old version of firefox in my laptop. It is nice if RTM.app with offline mode, such as the application for i-pod, is provided for my laptop Mac. I do not stick on off-line service through my browser.
rain89nl says:
I'm also waiting for this to happen. Can't even install Gears no more
paul.vermette says:
Looking for same thing...
mikabren says:
This is really becoming a musthave!
There are several tasks I can complete without being online (e.g. when I'm on the train) but without being able to see which tasks I need to complete, my time on the train's wasted.
There are several tasks I can complete without being online (e.g. when I'm on the train) but without being able to see which tasks I need to complete, my time on the train's wasted.
ashlind says:
Much needed.
zacharygthomas says:
I'm waiting on offline mode to re-purchase my pro membership. Any additional transparency that you can provide would be appreciated! I use RTM on international flights, and I've been lost without offline mode.
(closed account) says:
+1
michaelk84 says:
If I can't use RTM offline - I don't have piece of mind. I'm looking forward to when I can use this great application :D
phillipnorthc says:
i'm shopping for to do programs right now, and I was coming straight here because I remember learning it had offline access. That it no longer does means, unfortunately, that I'm going to look elsewhere. I imagine I'm not alone.
robelin says:
+1
karya says:
+1
dror.lev says:
+1
tony.grout says:
Hi Emily, any news on this? It's been a while now.
hoi says:
Hi, what about offline? Any update?
matthias_beyer says:
Even just offline support for Chrome would be greatly appreciated!
+2
+2
wolfeinstein says:
i guess I need to find another app for this ... its sad
nitingoel says:
its been a long time how do i use rtm offline in chrome thanks
a.obhof says:
+1
ryan.hammer says:
Ok RTM, it's time for another update on this. It's been a while.
yayabiko says:
+1 much needed
hunshiki says:
What about a simple Adobe AIR, or Java based application? It's easy to develop in both languages, and both will behave the same on every OS.
I know Java is not that lightweight (it's on par with C#), but offline support is not something you always need. If you are on a Chromebook, or something with limited resources, just stick to the web interface.
Otherwise, the AIR/Java app would be there.
I know Java is not that lightweight (it's on par with C#), but offline support is not something you always need. If you are on a Chromebook, or something with limited resources, just stick to the web interface.
Otherwise, the AIR/Java app would be there.
jamag says:
+1
sindlerh says:
+1
(closed account) says:
Come on already!
gursoye says:
+1
omar.reddam says:
+1
richbreen says:
Just evaluating this on my iPhone and iPad - like it a lot, but without offline desktop support it's a non-starter. Too bad...
(closed account) says:
+1
Thanks for a great service, offline support is going to make it even better!
Thanks for a great service, offline support is going to make it even better!
torchtarget says:
+1 for offline
(closed account) says:
+1
mblawrence says:
+1
wulfm0n says:
+1
mayowa.olatoye says:
+1
johnbyrnes says:
+1 This is really a critical feature.
arete says:
+1
good.ryanm says:
+1
johannes.sierl says:
+1
javier.fernandez.braga says:
+1
pojkensimon says:
In order for me to upgrade my account to a pro. This is a key feature.
jonty1982 says:
+1 would be really helpful with my chromebook
(closed account) says:
sigh +1.
been using rtm for years - would love to be able to use it while traveling offline :|
been using rtm for years - would love to be able to use it while traveling offline :|
(closed account) says:
ok - that wasn't very nice. yes, I love RTM - it's a core part of my workflow. Thank you for making such a deceptively simple, yet immensely functional tool. I too would love to see an update about possible offline access.
michaelkiy says:
New chromebooks are rolled out and waiting for the RTM offline support.
(closed account) says:
+1, please ;)
(closed account) says:
Offline access to RM via Google Chrome, please. Thank you!
sianth says:
Pleeeeease!
ken.takeshige says:
+1, please, please. people needs this.
sanjeevsaraf says:
Any updates?
(closed account) says:
The latest release of RTM has offline support now. Yay!